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This dem primary has to be THE most corrupt ever. That it would be allowed to stand is a grave threat to our democracy. One thing the PUMA party should consider doing is becoming a reform party and exposing the names of persons who are more concerned about their political agendas and *sses than doing what is right and democratic. We should also consider running candidates against those who participate in this vile corruption in addition to exposing them clearly and often to the rest of the voters asking for their resignations!
Sports analogies are somewhat tricky and should not be used by people who do no understand sports. Rules in sports are consistent while the nominating process of the Democratic Party is anything but consistent. If you use the rules of sports, Hillary Clinton would be the clear winner. I am not refusing to vote for Obama because I am a sore loser. I am unable to vote for someone I feel is dangerous to the future of our Democracy. I have a button which says "Not greedy enough to ever vote Republican". I may need to throw the button away.
The arbitrary ruleAs a Hillary Supporter,I’m OVER the Democratic Party. McCain gets my vote. I refuse to allow the sneaky low life Dean, DNC and the filthy no good talk show hosts media to choose my president........I'LL NEVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT TILL I CAN VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Barack Obama is going to be another Mike Dukakis.
I have been a Democrat all of my life, have voted Democratic, have worked on phone banks for most of them. Your disrespect is duly noted, but understand it is also NOT forgotten. We understand that you especially, Mr. Fowler, have undergone a mysterious change since February, when you ardently spoke about your being against superdelegates nominating a candidate who did not have the most poplular vote. At any rate, the following are the words of one of our leaders, Murphy, who says it best and I agree with EVERY word, as do hundreds of thousands: Dear Mr. Fowler and Ms. Germond, You “confess” to feeling “a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support.” If listening to voters has become distressingly fatiguing and irritating to you both, perhaps you should consider a different line of work. I am a member of Puma PAC, People United Means Action (http://blog.pumapac.org), and we are the Voice of the Voters in the Democratic Party. As voters in the Democratic Party, We MOST CERTAINLY DO “lay down conditions” for our support. These conditions include a profound commitment to the Democratic process; enfranchisement of ALL Democratic voters; and a candidate who is ready and able to lead our country and LEAD US TO VICTORY in November. You both, as well as your selected nominee, FAIL at meeting even one of these conditions. As a result, your selected nominee will absolutely, positively NOT receive our votes in November. That you compared, ineptly, a presidential primary election to a sporting event betrays your even deeper failure of leadership and competence. Sincerely, Lucy C. Lack Donald J. Lack Tampa, FL 33617
By exercising the discretionary authority explicitly written into the DNC charter, rules, and bylaws, Chairman Dean has maintained the DNC was justified in halving voters' votes; and in reassigning their votes from the candidate of their choice, either Senator Clinton or Uncommitted, to Senator Obama. So, when I make the case to the DNC that this nominating process is flawed, I do not bother quoting DNC governing language. The Party knows what it did. I just assure them, I understand what they did; and that for this reason, I cannot give them my vote, too, to use as they see fit.
Dear Mr. Fowler, Senator Hillary Clinton won the popular vote....get over it! Senator Hillary Clinton and her 18 million supporters deserve an open convention with her name placed into nomination! -JW
I am a Hillary supporter and I am also from South Florida. I have never been so angry at the DNC for the stolen votes that where taken away from HRC. I will go McCain,and not ever vote for the Dem. Party again
After watching Mr. Fowler on video.i have to agree, SOMEONE GOT TO HIM TOO! I believe in my heart that whole election hasd been rigged in obama's favor! I watched the primaries very closely,and i knew at the last primary,IND I Think" that something fishy went on! IF HRC's name is not in nomination i intend to vote a straight rep.ticket in NOV. THE MEDIA "CNN" gave her lousy press from the start! They "projected" a win from one state,in obama's favor before the 1ST vote came across the screen! I SENT THEM A SHI&&y e mail! WE THE PEOPLE" DO NOT MATTER TO THE DNP" WHY GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT??? Donna
s established by a flawed political party do NOT supercede the sacred right to vote and to have that vote count. For that reason, I, a lifelong Democrat, will not support the candidate selected by the DNC. I will support: 1. Hillary Clinton 2. John McCain 3. Anybody But Obama.
When the Obama Democrats make the argument about the Supreme Court appointments that may or may not be forthcoming, they forget to tell you that Obama was going to vote to confirm Judge Roberts, but his Senate Aide (who use to work for Tom Dascle) warned him that it would be bad "politically" for him to vote for the confirmation of Judge Roberts. So, it makes you wonder what kind of judge he would nominate, doesn't it?
Mr. Fowler, Please be advised that we Clinton supporters will be the force that defeats Obama, should the Democratic Party continue on the undemocratic course of selecting our party nominee. We would never taken such bold actions as resigning from the party and initiating movement, which has evolved into a viral and thriving force, had we merely been "disgruntled" because Hillary "lost", as many have stated. The lack of insight reflected in that line of thought is laughable. Hillary was the target of a conspiratorial effort by the DNC, other party leaders, and others in order to ensure selection of Obama. Plainly and simply, democracy was subverted. The process was corrupted. The deal was fixed so Dean and friends could crown Obama. We reject the corruption that characterized this election. We reject Obama as an unqualified candidate, who, if elected president, would place this country at risk. So do you actually think we are worried about your "fatigue"? If you want to talk about fatigue, possibly, you might want to turn your thoughts to the way Clinton was treated, and by association, her supporters, as she fought for every gain, only to have it diminished as unimportant, and to be told to quit. If the party, including yourself, who, at one time appeared to believe in the democratic process, believes for one second that we members of the PUMA party, bent on righting this wrong, will stop our movement because you are fatigued and want us to fall in line, you will soon realize just how seriously you have misjudged us.
Arianna Huffington tried to sell show idea she would star in called Beat the Press. This was around 1997. Dan Abrams is currently using Beat the Press on his MSNBC television show. Dan Abrams was the FIRST to start stating that the superdelegates SHOULD NOT dictate the outcome of the race. George Soros and Arianna Huffington have had a huge hand in getting the superdelegates to whimper. What is so frustrating about the whole situation is at one point in the race Barack Obama had 57% of the delegates while only having 51% of the popular vote (not counting Michigan and Florida). This means that Hillary Clinton had far far less delegates, perhaps as few as 40% of the pledged delegates while having 49% of the popular vote. Why is it acceptable for Barack Obama to have a 17% lead in pledged delegates when he barely had a 1% lead in the popular vote? If that is acceptable, then it is also acceptable that the superdelegates should be free to vote their conscience. The migration of super delegates to Barack Obama happened even as Hillary Clinton was winning the popular vote over the final 8-10 weeks of the campaign by a very significant margin of almost 10%
Mr. Fowler I don't think you get it. It's not just about party, it's about the people representing the party and while I supported Hillary, I simply do not and cannot support Mr. Obama. I'm tired of hearing the unity song to try to force people into making a decison they don't want to make. You claim to be fatigued and irritated that people aren't supporting your candidate. Have you asked yourself why? Integrity, respect, actions, behavior, flip flopping back and forth and then taking on the policies of the person he attacked does not create confidence, respect or invite my vote. I simply do not trust Obama, the way the whole thing was played out in the media, the attacks against any of the opposition. The whole thing smacks of corruption. You can bet if any other candidate was connected to Rezko, Ayers, they would be knocked out of the picture. Sorry, I just can't and won't bring myself to vote Obama and I know there are many others who feel the same as I do who will not vote Obama either. The DNC IMO acted were very unprofessional, they played dirty politics. The people of MI, FL were disrespected and oppressed and it was obvious. Mr. Obama appears to be consumed with his own ego, and currently, the Chancellor of Germany was not impressed with his actions. Today in the media, it appears the media who seem to have been covering for Obama and put out the story that the Iraq PM supported Obama's plan to withdraw, in todays paper, Iraq: PM doesn't back Obama plan Updated 11h 45m ago BAGHDAD (AP) — Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has not endorsed any specific timeframe for possible U.S. troops withdrawals, Iraq's government spokesman said Sunday. The statement by Ali al-Dabbagh came in response to an article by Germany's Der Spiegel magazine that quoted al-Maliki as favoring the 16-month withdrawal window proposed by U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama — who is scheduled to visit Iraq soon ___ In closing you can't force people to vote for a candidate they dont't want to support. Many would rather and will cross party lines first. While Obama may be a very nice person in his private life, as presidential material, I don't support him. Even his own pastor said he'd do whatever it took to win. Those aren't glowing reports. The media can't protect him forever; he can't have Teleprompters around him forever. I'd rather see McCain in, at least you know where you stand with him; some Republicans don't like him though as they feel he's more a Democrat than Republican. While part is important, more important is the person leading the party and I just don't believe in the person the DNC chose to represent the party. I don't like the way it was handled, I don't like being forced to vote for someone I don't think is right for the job. The DNC lost a lot of respect the way they managed everything, including allowing attacks against Clinton, while protecting Obama. That's the way I feel, and that's my prerogative. America is supposed to be the land of the free, and with that freedom, I can vote as I like. You seem to be laying down conditions, tough talk asking people to support someone they don't believe in. You lose credibility when you do that. The DNC did not care to listen to any one's concerns, now suddenly, they want people to listen to them and do as they demand. No Thank you any name and I speak for millions.
Don’t worry; i won't be falling in line either. Hillary 08 McCain 08.
Don Fowler WAS absolutely right back in Feb., maybe he needs to take a refresher course on what he said back then or send him this video. Delegates need to make it right at the convention and go with the will of the people, nominate Senator Clinton, or lose the election. Clinton won the states needed to win the election, as well as the popular vote, it really doesn't take a genius to figure this out. When you cheat her of the nomination, your cheating over 18 million of us that voted for her. Without us, you wouldn't even have a Democratic Party! So I tell YOU to get in line and do what's right!
TO: Mr. Fowler and Ms. Germond: You two along with the rest of the DNC have all but destroyed the Democratic Party. Mr. Fowler, go back and listen to your Video made in Feb. 2008. Why, now are you changing your mind, did OBAMA tell you to? Ms. Germond, how did you get to the position you are in now? I really don't want to know those two answers, because I have a very good idea of how! It is preposterous what the DNC has done to Senator Hillary Clinton, and I, for one am still hoping and praying that the delegates and supredelagates will wake up to the fact that we do not want Barack Hussein Obama as the Democratic candidate. We should have the votes from you that the citizens of the United States of America want. That has been proven by the votes that Sen. Clinton received. The WILL OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE FIRST, then the appointment of OBAMA by the DNC will not be the Democratic Candidate. Please remember each and every one in Congress has to run for re-election every few years and are taking a chance of not being there the next election. We the people will not forget what you have done to US.
I am so disgusted with the dem.party this time around.It is corrupt and the will of the people has not be given.The DNC,MEDIA AND SUPERDELEGATES have selected this canditate and he is not experienced,I can not and will not vote for Obama I love my country too much to put my vote on him.If not Hillary I will vote to help get him defeated,and will work as hard for McCain with my vote and money to show my right to be heard.
Right now, there is no way I will vote for Obama, but supporting him "without conditions or demands" is absolutely nonsensical and reinforces the idea that voters are working for politicians, rather than the opposite. The Democratic party has become more and more of a dictatorial nightmare and McCain may be the best alternative.
WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE. WE ARE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT A PERSON WHO IS FORCED UPON US BY THE MEMBERS OF DNC. WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING. THE SUPERDELEGATES WERE ESTABLISHED, AS MR FOWLER SAID IN HIS VIDEO, TO COUNTER THE MISTAKE OF PUTTING AN UNQUALIFIED PERSON AS THE NOMINEE. OBAMA IS THAT UNQUALIFIED PERSON. THEREFORE, THE SUPERDELEGATES MUST INSIST ON A FAIR AND MEANINGFUL ROLL CALL VOTE AT THE CONVENTION.
It's not Obama skin is our problem. Our problem is his character and the corruption of the DNC. Nobody told the American people the close realtionship of Dean and Axelrod.Their association and Dean's computer guy,is from tHe Dean presidential election. He and Axelrod(or what the hack is his name,are a dicreas to the DNC. Before be loyal to a party, I'm loyal to my country.SO, I would never vote Obama. He is a crock,lierB.
As greater minds than me have said--I will NOT reward the Democratic party with my vote come November.
Welcome to the campaign to bury Barack Hussein Obama Jr and send him back to Illinois here, so we can then kick his lying a** out of Springfield for neglecting his senatorial duties for 4 years while running a failed presidential campaign. Although I'm a conservative voting for McCain, Hillary got screwed by the magic negro and the DNC crooks that cooked the Obama books to run the historic "1st Black President" campaign feeling it would be more effective than the "!st Female President" campaign. They were wrong, good luck and thanks for the McCain support.
One of the aspects of the DNC that has made me the angriest was that DNC Rules Committee meeting in which Don Fowler and his wife (SC Superdelegates) attended. It was well publicized that Don Fowler supported Hillary Clinton and Mrs. Fowler supporter Obama. I found that curious, but I became very suspect of political couples who decided to not offend anyone by supporting both Hillary and Obama. I was particularly suspect when the husband was Hillary's supporter. I don't know if anyone besides me noticed that there seemed to be very few white women on that DNC Rules Committee. It was made up of white men and black women - a common practice when gender quotas or the appearance of such is the order. White men in general were tepid Hillary fans. Certainly, there were exceptions, but polls verified that. African-Americans whether male or female, young or old, democrat or republican all eventually got caught up in the Obama frenzy regardless of who they were committed to or publicly supporting. That is why the black women on that committee were scolding Hillary supporters telling them they should "be happy about the votes cast there that day because it was fair and could have been worse, etc." I'm sure it was a win-win for them regardless of who prevailed that day. So, the letter from Don Fowler (white man) and Alice Germond (black woman) doesn't surprise me at all. Yes, count me in with those who are completely disgusted about the way the primary season was conducted, the DNC's Dean & Brazile's treasonous acts and behavior along with SC Rep. James Clyburn, all of whom tailor made for Obama the primary schedule and caucus strategy masquarading as Dean's 50-state strategy that he didn't get to use in 2004, the party leadership - Pelosi, Kennedy, McCaskill, etc. who abandoned Hillary Clinton making Obama the 'establishment' candidate after only 3 years in the US Senate and who is an embarrassment to the democratic party. If Hillary Clinton's credentials had been no more impressive than Obama's, she would have been laughed off the political stage - by women! I am angrier at all of the above than I am at Obama. That's why there is nothing that any of them could ever say that would convince me to vote for Obama. Don't talk to me about judges on the Supreme Court, Roe vs Wade, or my prized women's legislation. I couldn't care less. I simply will not be a party to rewarding all of the above after what they have done to purposely defeat the best candidate because, I assume, personal bias. I want my vote to count against them and the reason I will have to vote for McCain. I have been a far-left party activist for years always supporting the most liberal candidate (so don't hang any labels of conservative democrat or racist on me because I now live in SC), worked on women's issues for 10 years, a one-time delegate to the Dem National Convention when the gender quotas were put in place, and have never voted republican on a state or national level before. I am a babyboomer - not 70 or 80!
If the pundits, elderly DNC, Howard Dean, the Kennedy's and super delegates had given Hillary Clinton just as much time as they gave Obama, she would have been the nominee. Since giving his speech at the 2004 Democratic convention , the Democratic party had plan to have Obama run if Kerry did not get the Presidency. He will be the token President in the oval office, to make sure democrats remain in power. The democrats in the house have done next to nothing.
Please get this out to the media! I will do whatever I can to help. This is something that The Denver Group needs as an ad. Where did this come from? Thanks! Marg Mackall
In your own words you said this would be unfair if the delegates were on one side and the will of the people were on the other at the convention. Why did you send such a contentious letter to the "people" who feel their candidate was treated unfair.
I see this morning on the ObamaMSN network that they are reporting in wonderment: "Hillary Clinton may be once again being considered for VP to - get this - appease her supporters". I would prefer full-speed ahead with our current demand of a convention roll-call vote, especially, if her being named to the ticket would mean she would have to agree to no roll-call vote. If the Obama campaign is willing to name her, in light of the well publicized "anyone but Hillary" stance of Obama, his campaign and his supporters, then that means they are worried we really might have some legitiment claims about the delegates voting our way. This is important to me due to the reality or at least appearance of stacking-of-the-deck of that rules committee at the end of May with either white men or black women, neither of whom were all that committed to Hillary - forgive me if any of you were an exception. Otherwise, I'm still not sure I would vote for Obama even with Hillary on the ticket. This is NOT about an idolization of Hillary or the Clintons'. It is about democracy and the efforts to hijack (to use Harold Ickes words) the democratic party. The only way at this point I would agree to vote for an Obama-Clinton ticket would be: That Howard Dean and Donna Brazile would be thrown off the DNC for life, and Nancy Pelosi and SC Rep. James Clyburn forced to resign and written promises to never run again. Of course these very open Obama supporters were just the tip of the iceburg. I could go on. You can't fool me - I watched your every move from the end of 2007 until today. I have been a delegate, and I know how it is supposed to work. You were all supposed to remain uncommitted/unnannounced which you did anything but. It is treasoneous, and I wish you would be tried for such!
If the DNC cannot be fair, I will not vote "Democratic"!
Alsammarae, Auchi, Rezko and , yes, Obama, are all involved in the biggest intercontinental fraud, theft, and money laundering scheme, that the FBI has admitted is so complex, even THEY are having difficulty sorting out all the puzzle pieces!!! And this is who may become our next president. Not only will our tax dollars go up, but who knows what subversive use it will be used for. After all, Auchi was working at one point for Saddam Hussein!!! DO YOUR HOMEWORK, people, before you think of voting for Obama. YOU DON"T KNOW WHO THIS MAN REALLY IS OR, WORSE, WHO HE REALLY REPRESENTS!!!
Dear Don and Alice, If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Give up your status as Super Delegates if you can't stay strong and demand that all votes are counted before you cave. I do hope you are smart enough to vote for Hillary in Denver! Say whatever you want as long as you vote for Hillary R Clinton in Denver, demand the vote count, count all votes. I am seeing why it is predicted in the Bible that there will be a revolution against our government. I am one for no party anymore. DNC either corrects their grave error in Denver or I will protest continuously against them. I will not vote for Obama, no how, no way. The man is a fake. My prayers are that Hillary Clinton is nominated and wins in November. So Don and Alice, take some vitamin B12 and get strength to do what is right...or give up your voting.
I WILL VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN IN NOVEMBER.........
YES, I ALSO DOUBT THE INTEGRITY OF THIS PRIMARY. IT SEEMS THAT THE DNC ACTUALLY SOUGHT TO IGNORE THE VIEWS OF 18 MILLION VOTERS. OVERTIME, I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT MR. OBAMA IS SIMPLY A CHAMELEON INTERESTED IN POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY WHERE CLARITY CEASES TO BE A VIRTUE. SENATOR CLINTON IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE OF SUBSTANCE.
I REMAIN STEADFAST IN MY BELIEF THAT SENATOR OBAMA IS A CUNNING, CHAMELEON READY TO EMBRACE POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY WITHOUT HESITATION OR CLARITY.
Don Fowler and all superdelegates must cast their votes for Hillary Clinton at the convention in Denver on the first ballot to make her our nominee. Obama's candidacy is unraveling, and we haven't even really started yet! His negatives are heading up, his polling numbers per state are going down, and the Repubs haven't even leveled their cannons at him yet. This train wreck can still be stopped.